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	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Oh, if only government went in for an open source make-over&#8230;&#8221; by Yule Heibel</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/04/oh-if-only-government-went-in-for-an-open-source-make-over/#comment-18526</link>
		<author>Yule Heibel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/04/oh-if-only-government-went-in-for-an-open-source-make-over/#comment-18526</guid>
					<description>Thank-you for using my comment as a jumping off point to a thought-provoking blog entry here, Britt!  (And I hope I didn't sound as 'despairing' as all that -- my despair, such as it is, stems as often as not from the fossilized pace of local governance here.  Other than that, I'm a pretty optimistic, happy-go-lucky person, which is probably why I'm ready to stumble into pre-existing conversations!  ...Like, duh Yule: one quick google search could have told me that you, Britt, have been talking about open source government for ...well, for a while.)

But on to your post: I really like your descriptive term, "collaboration mall."  As a city person (and yeah, Victoria is a smaller city, but it's pretty dense and urban and walkable), I'm of course loathe to admit that the suburbs might be places that produce appropriate symbols ("mall") for civitas / civic life.  But I can remind myself that in the 1920s Walter Benjamin wrote about 19th century Parisian arcades as localities of social meaning (and manufacture of meaning) -- and what were the arcades but urban forerunners of suburban malls?  

I'd say that the urban street is still more democratic/ porous/ open, if only because it really is public space, vs. private or semi-private.  But the mall can bring together all sorts of different (including "regular") people, and it's a great term (compared to "street") because it acknowledges the reality of markets, fees for services, settings for enterprise, and consumer platforms.  

I'm at the very beginning of trying to create a community aggregator type service here, and your suggestion of a "collaboration mall" is intriguing.  Just as with Doc's entry on infrastructure, I find it helps my thinking when one (physical) thing typically seen in one context is transposed into another (more abstract) context.  Till now, I was thinking for example of "public space" (physical) and how that manifests online (abstract).  But narrowing that space to a mall brings things into better focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you for using my comment as a jumping off point to a thought-provoking blog entry here, Britt!  (And I hope I didn&#8217;t sound as &#8216;despairing&#8217; as all that &#8212; my despair, such as it is, stems as often as not from the fossilized pace of local governance here.  Other than that, I&#8217;m a pretty optimistic, happy-go-lucky person, which is probably why I&#8217;m ready to stumble into pre-existing conversations!  &#8230;Like, duh Yule: one quick google search could have told me that you, Britt, have been talking about open source government for &#8230;well, for a while.)</p>
<p>But on to your post: I really like your descriptive term, &#8220;collaboration mall.&#8221;  As a city person (and yeah, Victoria is a smaller city, but it&#8217;s pretty dense and urban and walkable), I&#8217;m of course loathe to admit that the suburbs might be places that produce appropriate symbols (&#8221;mall&#8221;) for civitas / civic life.  But I can remind myself that in the 1920s Walter Benjamin wrote about 19th century Parisian arcades as localities of social meaning (and manufacture of meaning) &#8212; and what were the arcades but urban forerunners of suburban malls?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that the urban street is still more democratic/ porous/ open, if only because it really is public space, vs. private or semi-private.  But the mall can bring together all sorts of different (including &#8220;regular&#8221;) people, and it&#8217;s a great term (compared to &#8220;street&#8221;) because it acknowledges the reality of markets, fees for services, settings for enterprise, and consumer platforms.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m at the very beginning of trying to create a community aggregator type service here, and your suggestion of a &#8220;collaboration mall&#8221; is intriguing.  Just as with Doc&#8217;s entry on infrastructure, I find it helps my thinking when one (physical) thing typically seen in one context is transposed into another (more abstract) context.  Till now, I was thinking for example of &#8220;public space&#8221; (physical) and how that manifests online (abstract).  But narrowing that space to a mall brings things into better focus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My God, it&#8217;s full of Mentors! Doc Searls and Ben Bowles. by David Sifry</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/02/my-god-its-full-of-mentors-doc-searls-and-ben-bowles/#comment-13042</link>
		<author>David Sifry</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/02/my-god-its-full-of-mentors-doc-searls-and-ben-bowles/#comment-13042</guid>
					<description>Wow. Wow wow wow.  Great writing, you had me at hello. :-)

You're a lucky man, Britt!

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Wow wow wow.  Great writing, you had me at hello. <img src='http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a lucky man, Britt!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Intel Inside - the Vomit Comet by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/01/no-intel-inside-the-vomit-comet/#comment-10386</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/01/no-intel-inside-the-vomit-comet/#comment-10386</guid>
					<description>I float corrected, Doc. I accepted a statement on a web site as true, probably because it reinforced my own preconceptions. I’m prone to motion sickness, despite 5,000± hours of military flying time. This is never the case when I’m at the controls, and rarely in large aircraft: Proof that I'm a control freak.

And perhaps they have not always dispensed the super dramamine they give you. We couldn’t be on any medications while flying. There was an exception, though, and that was the Lomotil that was mission-critical in Vietnam. Without that, Ho Chi Minh would have had his revenge a lot sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I float corrected, Doc. I accepted a statement on a web site as true, probably because it reinforced my own preconceptions. I’m prone to motion sickness, despite 5,000± hours of military flying time. This is never the case when I’m at the controls, and rarely in large aircraft: Proof that I&#8217;m a control freak.</p>
<p>And perhaps they have not always dispensed the super dramamine they give you. We couldn’t be on any medications while flying. There was an exception, though, and that was the Lomotil that was mission-critical in Vietnam. Without that, Ho Chi Minh would have had his revenge a lot sooner.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Intel Inside - the Vomit Comet by Doc Searls</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/01/no-intel-inside-the-vomit-comet/#comment-10170</link>
		<author>Doc Searls</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2008/01/no-intel-inside-the-vomit-comet/#comment-10170</guid>
					<description>It was easy, gentle and fun. Nobody puked. One woman got a little woozy on the 14th and 15th parabola, but that was it. Any roller-coaster is rougher. So is riding on a swing. The highest G-forces you feel are 1.8G, which isn't enough to keep you on the side of a centrifuge. 

The main problem for me was watching my camera float away and not being able to retrieve it from the back of the plane until after the flight. That and crawling out from under other people's bodies when  positive G-forces returned.

The biggest surprise was the nearly complete lack of control. if you're not holding on to something, you're actually kind of helpless, just floating there among a bunch of other bodies, mostly helpless too.

But helpless in a fun way. 

You'd enjoy it. Trust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was easy, gentle and fun. Nobody puked. One woman got a little woozy on the 14th and 15th parabola, but that was it. Any roller-coaster is rougher. So is riding on a swing. The highest G-forces you feel are 1.8G, which isn&#8217;t enough to keep you on the side of a centrifuge. </p>
<p>The main problem for me was watching my camera float away and not being able to retrieve it from the back of the plane until after the flight. That and crawling out from under other people&#8217;s bodies when  positive G-forces returned.</p>
<p>The biggest surprise was the nearly complete lack of control. if you&#8217;re not holding on to something, you&#8217;re actually kind of helpless, just floating there among a bunch of other bodies, mostly helpless too.</p>
<p>But helpless in a fun way. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d enjoy it. Trust me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheer for David vs. patent Goliath by Fred Baum</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/08/cheer-for-david-vs-patent-goliath/#comment-2646</link>
		<author>Fred Baum</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 02:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/08/cheer-for-david-vs-patent-goliath/#comment-2646</guid>
					<description>Datatreasury has proven time and time again that their patents are real.  NCR traded 2800 patents for these 2 patents.  Merryl Lynch signed up with out a fight just to get ahead. PNC Bank in alliance with Diebold now allows you to 
deposit a check  from your place of business using Datatreasury's patents.  It is ridiculous and against the american way to steal DO NOT LET THE BANKS GET AWAY WITH ROBBING DATATREASURY"S PATENTS or this whole country is in trouble. The Banks are worse then criminals in jail since they are willfully knowingly  infringing on patents they do not own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Datatreasury has proven time and time again that their patents are real.  NCR traded 2800 patents for these 2 patents.  Merryl Lynch signed up with out a fight just to get ahead. PNC Bank in alliance with Diebold now allows you to<br />
deposit a check  from your place of business using Datatreasury&#8217;s patents.  It is ridiculous and against the american way to steal DO NOT LET THE BANKS GET AWAY WITH ROBBING DATATREASURY&#8221;S PATENTS or this whole country is in trouble. The Banks are worse then criminals in jail since they are willfully knowingly  infringing on patents they do not own.</p>
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		<title>Comment on First thing we do, is Kill all the Inventors by Fred Baum</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/first-thing-we-do-is-kill-all-the-inventors/#comment-2642</link>
		<author>Fred Baum</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/first-thing-we-do-is-kill-all-the-inventors/#comment-2642</guid>
					<description>The banks should be ashamed of themselves, they have infringed willingly ,knowingly and do not want to pay, they are more dishonest then the hard core criminals in jail. NCR  settled shortly after being sued trading 2800 patents for the 2 patents Datatreasury owns.  Merryl Lynch signed up without litigation and PNC with Diebold approached Datatreasury to use their patents .  If a bill gets passed in this country taking away something that this company owns because the defendant is huge and the plaintiff is tiny , we might as well call it a day for free  enterprise in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banks should be ashamed of themselves, they have infringed willingly ,knowingly and do not want to pay, they are more dishonest then the hard core criminals in jail. NCR  settled shortly after being sued trading 2800 patents for the 2 patents Datatreasury owns.  Merryl Lynch signed up without litigation and PNC with Diebold approached Datatreasury to use their patents .  If a bill gets passed in this country taking away something that this company owns because the defendant is huge and the plaintiff is tiny , we might as well call it a day for free  enterprise in America.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fighter Pilot Porn by Lydia Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-2634</link>
		<author>Lydia Fish</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-2634</guid>
					<description>"Fighter Pilot Porn" is a fantastic piece of writing!  

I have been doing research on fighter pilot songs for the past twenty years and I would like very much to quote from "Pilot Pilot Porn" in a paper I am writing.  Unfortunately, I can't identify the writer.  If he would be kind enough to get in touch with me I would be very grateful.

Lydia Fish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fighter Pilot Porn&#8221; is a fantastic piece of writing!  </p>
<p>I have been doing research on fighter pilot songs for the past twenty years and I would like very much to quote from &#8220;Pilot Pilot Porn&#8221; in a paper I am writing.  Unfortunately, I can&#8217;t identify the writer.  If he would be kind enough to get in touch with me I would be very grateful.</p>
<p>Lydia Fish</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fighter Pilot Porn by Lloyd Ulrich  USAF Col (ret)</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1991</link>
		<author>Lloyd Ulrich  USAF Col (ret)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1991</guid>
					<description>Flew many times with then Col Olds when he ran the 81st Wing at Bentwaters.  Much that I have enjoyed reading here I have witnessed in the past - a Great Fighter Pilot!!  THanks, Lloyd Ulrich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flew many times with then Col Olds when he ran the 81st Wing at Bentwaters.  Much that I have enjoyed reading here I have witnessed in the past - a Great Fighter Pilot!!  THanks, Lloyd Ulrich</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fighter Pilot Porn by LtCol(Ret)Ed Flanders</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1971</link>
		<author>LtCol(Ret)Ed Flanders</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1971</guid>
					<description>This tells it all about a true Fighter Pilot. May God give our future leaders the guts and strength to carry on the actions and traditions exemplified by Col Olds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This tells it all about a true Fighter Pilot. May God give our future leaders the guts and strength to carry on the actions and traditions exemplified by Col Olds</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fighter Pilot Porn by Dave Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1928</link>
		<author>Dave Palmer</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blaserco.com/blogs/2007/07/fighter-pilot-porn/#comment-1928</guid>
					<description>The story about the flyby at the Air Force Academy is true.  The flight leader was named Mathews.  He wasn't supossed to go supersonic, but did so.  The sonic boom broke the windows.  He claimed it was an accident,  but the brass didn't believe him.  They made him transportation squadron commander (motor Pool) at McConnell AFB for about a year as punisment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story about the flyby at the Air Force Academy is true.  The flight leader was named Mathews.  He wasn&#8217;t supossed to go supersonic, but did so.  The sonic boom broke the windows.  He claimed it was an accident,  but the brass didn&#8217;t believe him.  They made him transportation squadron commander (motor Pool) at McConnell AFB for about a year as punisment.</p>
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